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I would never do anything like this to you 14:34 < fsimonce> I feel your pain... verifying is hard 14:35 < fsimonce> danken, anyway it might be a sepolicy bug 14:35 < fsimonce> danken, it happens on "import sepolicy" 14:36 < fsimonce> danken, first thing I'd upgrade the relevant package (I hit a couple of selinux issue on f18 already) 14:36 < fsimonce> meaning that the package was actually broken with errors (not missing acls/etc) 14:52 -!- bala (purple): has joined #vdsm 15:00 -!- itamarh: has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:04 -!- bala: has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:11 -!- abaron: has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:12 -!- itamarh (purple): has joined #vdsm 15:21 -!- dyasny (Dan Yasny): has joined #vdsm 15:58 -!- lhornyak1 (purple): has joined #vdsm 16:00 -!- lhornyak: has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:20 -!- rharper: has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:30 -!- aliguori: has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:40 -!- rharper (Ryan Harper): has joined #vdsm 16:50 -!- lhornyak1: has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:57 -!- aliguori (Anthony Liguori): has joined #vdsm 16:58 -!- aledvink: has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:59 -!- Humble (Humble Chirammal): has joined #vdsm 17:05 -!- lhornyak (purple): has joined #vdsm 17:08 -!- acathrow: has left #vdsm [] 17:08 -!- danken: has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:13 -!- jlibosva: has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:17 -!- deepakcs (Deepak C Shetty): has joined #vdsm 17:17 -!- deepakcs: has quit [Client Quit] 17:24 -!- apahim: has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:25 -!- apahim (Amador Pahim): has joined #vdsm 17:27 -!- mohankumar (M. Mohan Kumar): has joined #vdsm 17:41 < bazulay> saggi: ping 17:42 < saggi> bazulay: I'm on the line 17:42 -!- odedr: has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:42 < bazulay> one min I'm there 17:43 -!- jbrooks (Jason Brooks): has joined #vdsm 17:53 < bazulay> https://gerrit.eng.lab.tlv.redhat.com/#/c/3148/1 17:56 -!- itamarh: has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:03 < aglitke> Hey guys... working with apuimedo on the updateVmInterfaceDevice API 18:04 -!- mohankumar: has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:04 < aglitke> The current patches lack a way for a caller to do each of the following: disconnect an interface from a network, or leave the current network unchanged. 18:05 < aglitke> The current semantics regarding omitted properties are not consistent. 18:05 -!- acathrow (Aic): has joined #vdsm 18:05 -!- mohankumar (M. Mohan Kumar): has joined #vdsm 18:06 < aglitke> I suggested changing linkState from a boolean (True->'up', False->'down') to an enum with three values: ('up', 'down', 'disconnected'). 18:06 < aglitke> With this, a user can disconnect the nic by calling updateVmDevice with the linkState field set to 'disconnect'. 18:06 < aglitke> omitting the 'network' field would leave it unchanges. 18:06 < aglitke> unchanged. 18:06 < aglitke> any comments on that idea? 18:07 < aglitke> apuimedo, If you don;t get any responses here, please send an email to the list for discussion. 18:08 < apuimedo> aglitke, the network unchanged is achieved by passing the name of the current netowrk 18:08 < apuimedo> *network 18:09 < aglitke> or you can also omit the property because it is optional. 18:09 < aglitke> and that semantic needs to be there to be consistent with how the other fields are treated. 18:12 -!- adrian15: has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.1.3 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:12 < apuimedo> yup 18:12 < apuimedo> I will send the email 18:24 -!- lhornyak: has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:33 -!- mohankumar: has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:35 -!- ykaplan: has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:39 -!- ilvovsky: has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:44 -!- trujillo: has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:00 -!- rmatinata (Ricardo Marin Matinata): has joined #vdsm 19:15 -!- osier: has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:18 -!- odedr (purple): has joined #vdsm 19:27 -!- bazulay: has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:32 -!- itamarh (purple): has joined #vdsm 19:48 -!- trujillo (ocuser): has joined #vdsm 19:56 -!- ybronhei (purple): has joined #vdsm 20:12 -!- apuimedo: has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:27 -!- jbrooks: has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20:27 -!- rharper: has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:27 -!- jbrooks (Jason Brooks): has joined #vdsm 20:48 -!- danken (purple): has joined #vdsm 20:48 -!- mode/#vdsm: by ChanServ 21:00 -!- granha_bola: has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:01 <@danken> saggi: so your only issue with my patch is the name of the function? 21:01 <@danken> saggi: would pathRequiresFlagForDirectIO() be good? 21:02 <@danken> or should I dump this patch, and change the tests to use /var/tmp ? 21:02 <@danken> aglitke: ?? ^^ 21:02 <@danken> (I'm nagging because it's blocking f18 and a feature freeze) 21:03 < aglitke> danken, gerrit link? 21:03 <@danken> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/9661/ 21:03 <@danken> (thanks for ping'ing back ;-) ) 21:06 -!- rmatinata: has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:10 -!- rharper (Ryan Harper): has joined #vdsm 21:20 < aglitke> saggi, ping 21:20 < saggi> aglitke: hi 21:21 < aglitke> Regarding the instance api discussion... (First: thanks for your detailed posts) 21:21 < saggi> aglitke: Believe me I was as horrified when I discovered how storage worked when I started working here 21:22 < aglitke> We will need some fairly invasive schema changes (specifically for storage) to switch to instance-less mode. 21:22 < saggi> aglitke: No problem, I started realizing we might just not be understanding each other. 21:23 <@danken> ah saggi, you answer aglitke's pings 21:23 < aglitke> danken, heh :) 21:23 <@danken> aglitke: you see, he likes you even more than he likes me. 21:23 < saggi> danken: You might have pinged while I was away, this gnome-shell thing. You don't have the small smily face around anymore 21:23 < aglitke> saggi, First, I will need to remove the object constructor pieces from the schema. 21:24 < aglitke> saggi, Then, I will need to add back the explicit parameters (which should only affect the storage verbs) 21:25 <@danken> saggi: please review my http://gerrit.ovirt.org/9727 or a new version for http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/9661/ 21:25 < aglitke> saggi, Finally, I can revert the patch that has some methods return instances and convert them back to 'UUID' 21:26 < aglitke> But I do want some assurances that we are designing a new API that removes all of these headaches that exist in the current API. 21:26 < aglitke> Like implicit pre-conditions when calling certain functions. 21:26 < saggi> aglitke: We are, sadly I am working on it less the I would like 21:27 < aglitke> What can I do to help you make it a bigger priority? 21:27 < aglitke> We need to close on it once and for all. 21:27 < aglitke> I've been on ovirt for 2 years and it's been just around the corner. 21:28 < aglitke> Perhaps we should be a little more open source-like in the way we work on this code. 21:28 < saggi> aglitke: I have pretty stale patches that are up ATM 21:28 < saggi> aglitke: next time I get a chance to work on it I'll have all APIs more or less finalized 21:29 -!- aledvink (Unknown): has joined #vdsm 21:29 < saggi> finalized meaning that I am happy with em 21:29 < saggi> no that they are set in stone 21:29 < aglitke> Is there a way we can break it down into more manageable pieces? 21:29 < aglitke> you should not wait until your code is "done" before posting. Open source communities will burn you for that :) 21:29 < saggi> The problem is I am the only guy working on New Storage, New API, Test Infra, Task Infra, Weird bugs. 21:30 < saggi> I also have very little documented 21:30 < aglitke> I've re-written enough patches to have learned my lesson. 21:30 < aglitke> The best way to no longer be the "only guy" is to break it up and encourage other interested parties to help. 21:31 < aglitke> Maybe we can start discussing the new API schema. 21:31 < aglitke> and put in a patch for vdsmapi-schema.json 21:31 < saggi> I'll send an email about the interface 21:31 < saggi> it's more or less done 21:31 < saggi> good enough to start talking about it 21:31 < aglitke> That will allow us to start discussing it at a more meaningful level. 21:32 < aglitke> And maybe some parts of the interface will shake out as places where other people can help. 21:32 < aglitke> ok. Please do send that out soon. I think it will be a great help. 21:33 < aglitke> also, you are not the only one working on "New API". I thought I was doing a bit of that work too. 21:33 < aglitke> :) 22:00 -!- odedr: has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:17 <@danken> saggi: what has happened to your lovely jenkins job, that ran the unit tests per submitted patch? 22:17 < saggi> danken: No idea 22:17 < saggi> danken: Someone shut it off 22:17 < saggi> I guess 22:17 < saggi> I can have a look 22:17 <@danken> saggi: it would be nice of you if you can 22:39 -!- gpadgett: has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:53 -!- gpadgett (Greg Padgett): has joined #vdsm 23:08 -!- danken: has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:11 -!- rmatinata (Ricardo Marin Matinata): has joined #vdsm 23:14 -!- itamarh: has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:22 -!- apuimedo (Antoni Segura Puimedon): has joined #vdsm 23:55 -!- acathrow: has left #vdsm [] --- Log closed wo dec 05 00:00:42 2012